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Tuesday, July 19, 2011

Kingdom Confusion John and Forceful Men


Continuing my series on the secrets of the kingdom. The secrets of the kingdom of God have been given to us (Matthew 13:11). Jesus came to share this kingdom message (Luke 4:43). So I'm examining different passages related to this kingdom message.

Some of these kingdom passages are hard to understand. This is one of them. Let's take a look. I'd love to hear your thoughts on what you think Jesus' was saying here.


Matthew 11:11-15 (NIV)
Truly I tell you, among those born of women there has not risen anyone greater than John the Baptist; yet whoever is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been subjected to violence, and violent people have been raiding it. For all the Prophets and the Law prophesied until John. And if you are willing to accept it, he is the Elijah who was to come. Whoever has ears, let them hear.
The first confusing piece. What is Jesus saying about John the Baptist? He seems to say John the Baptist is the greatest man to ever live. Yet he says the least in the kingdom is greater than him.

Does this mean John the Baptist isn't in the kingdom of Heaven? If John the Baptist is in the kingdom of Heaven, and he is the greatest man to ever live, how can others in the kingdom be greater than him?

Or is Jesus simply re-emphasizing the upside down nature of the kingdom. Is he saying, yes John is great... but don't forget that in the kingdom the first is last, and the greatest is the one who serves.

The second confusing piece of this passage is in vs 12. What's with this forceful stuff???

(NIV)

"From the days of John the Baptist until now, the kingdom of heaven has been forcefully advancing, and forceful men lay hold of it."

(YLT)

'And, from the days of John the Baptist till now, the reign of the heavens doth suffer violence, and violent men do take it by force,

Parallel passage in Luke 16:16

(NIV)

"The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John. Since that time, the good news of the kingdom of God is being preached, and everyone is forcing his way into it.

(YLT)

“the law and the prophets are till John; since then the reign of God is proclaimed good news, and every one doth press into it;"


Are some bad guys forcing their way in, and trying to overthrow the kingdom? I don't think this makes sense with the context.
I need some help with the Greek to make sense of these verses

http://biblos.com/matthew/11-12.htm
http://biblos.com/luke/16-16.htm

suffer violence - βίαζομαι - biazó (in both verses)

properly, to use power to forcibly seize, laying hold of something with positive aggressiveness. 971 /biázō ("to advance forcefully") is only used twice in the NT (both times positively).
According to google translate βίαζομαι has a modern definition of 'hurry'

violent men- βιασταὶ - biastai

a forceful, violent man; one who is eager in pursuit.

Jesus may have been making a connection with this passage in Michah 2:12-13 (NIV):

“I will surely gather all of you, Jacob;
I will surely bring together the remnant of Israel.
I will bring them together like sheep in a pen,
like a flock in its pasture;
the place will throng with people.
The One who breaks open the way will go up before them;
they will break through the gate and go out. Their King will pass through before them,
the LORD at their head.”
Imagine a wall that sheep are kept behind. A shepherd will breaks a hole in the wall and lead the sheep to green pastures.

Just imagine a flock of sheep breaking through that narrow opening in the wall.

That may be the picture Jesus is referencing here. Sheep following the Shepherd, breaking through into the kingdom. Starting with the days of John the Baptist sheep have been breaking free from the law in a hurry to enter the kingdom.

I'm in. Are you?

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1 comment:

Caleb said...

---In this material world everything is about force. There are military, governmental, and cultural forces. There are also the forces of nature. And at a lower level all physical objects are composed of atoms or maybe even more elementary particles. Even the thoughts of our family members and close friends are the movements of electrons, molecules, etc. through neural pathways. We begin our adult life in a world where forces rule.
---Succeed in discovering the gate to the narrow path that few find and that can change. There in your “born again” state you turn can away from things of the material world. If you can succeed at that, you can hear (or experience) the “still small voice” of God. But until that gate opens for you, you are advancing on the spiritual path in the ways of the material world, in other words, by force.
---When you reach the point of the path Jesus was indicating, you no longer need to operate in the realm of force. You can now advance on the path by decreasing the attention you give to material things and consequently your spiritual nature will grow. The Bible characterizes this as taking from the rich (our material nature) and giving to the poor (our spiritual nature).

---The Buddhist and Taoist traditions also mention this idea.

A scholar tries to learn something every day;
A student of Buddhism tries to unlearn something daily.
(Alan Watts)

In the pursuit of learning, every day something is acquired.
In the pursuit of Tao, every day something is dropped.
(Tao Te Ching - Chapter 48)

---In modern Christianity I suppose this is an advanced teaching. Most American Christians follow Bible teachings at a much more literal level.